Proposal #33: N/R/IYMs.
I propose that IYMs (International Youth Meetings) should be rethought as ‘youth meetings’ which can be National, Regional and International. (NYM) (RYM) (IYM)
The three would all include the same goals and structure (Age, length, size), but would be individually defined in the following way:
National Youth Meetings:
- Delegations/ participants sent from hosting country
- split between 5 chapters (delegation camps), many chapters (participants)
- or with one chapter the delegations/participants could be from different cultural/ ethnic backgrounds
- Organisation done by hosting country, no assistance required by IO.
- Delegations/participants sent from more then one country.
- This could occur in many ways (2-5 countries for delegation, 2+ for participant camps).
- Host NA secures delegations/participating countries and also establishes the cost of the RYM (defined by how cheaply that NA can host it)
- Same as now
If you think of IYM as:
‘A thematically based project, which allows participants to focus on the development of a chosen subject, bringing in personal experience and opinions’
Then you can see that this can be achieved in the 3 suggested ways.
Probably more YMs would be hosted, which would benefit small Nas and Pas who don’t get all the places that they would have wanted. It is also ‘including’ more people, giving them the opportunity to participate in International camps (RYM) at a lower cost. Having NYMs and RYMs would allow a larger amount of activities in different languages, including more non-english speakers.
National youth Meetings (with delegations/ participants of different ethnic origin) would enable CISV experiences without such a big effect on the environment. It states in both our CISV education circle and statement on peace that we should have a ‘caring attitude towards earth’ and act upon ‘the deteriation of the environment’. However, we still fly/travel hundreds of miles to different countries to have an‘intercultural experience’. The fact is, for many of us we could easily find an intercultural experience in our own cities/ nations
IYM has been, and is defined as ‘a regional themed camp’. Having RYMs would strengthen this concept, as well as increasing the amount of regional cooperations in our organisation. This would mean that YM would not only be a useful tool for chapter development, but also regional development and cooperation. Another idea of RYM is that you would not have to state the camps in the NRF in May/June, but organize them yourselves and notify the Tf and IO (something like) 6 or more months before.
We also cannot pretend that everyone is at the same hosting advantage as in Europe, NYMs and RYMs would be a good opportunity for ‘hard/expensive-to-get-to Nas/Pas’
For each YM, the YM Tf would have the same procedure of communication with the staff about the chosen theme, and the development of the themes. All themes will be recorded on the YM website so that it is really clear how each camp has developed a theme (and available for everyone to read). This would allow us to have a bigger database of thematic development.
Respectfully submitted, Laura (GBR)
{Read more abouut Youthmeetings here: http://resources.cisv.org/iym/What_is_a_Youth_Meeting.html}
13 Comments:
love it. go for it.
i very much appreciate any initiative which allow to bring our activities and programs closer to local realities, where we can have bigger impact...
this is also what i tried with my proposal for villages...
actually thinking so i have the friendly amendment that this principle should apply to Village, Summer Camps, Seminar and IPP as well...
lets go forward and get into the details of such idea!
Its a great idea!
I particularly like it at a regional level! I think it would work wonders.
Hey,
I like the idea... Actually, in Brazil we have already been doing this for many years. We have national YM, Villages, Summer Camps and even Internchanges! They're all delegation-based and work pretty much like their international equivalents.
Besides bringing CISV closer to the local reality, as Teo said, in Brazil these are very important to offer a CISV experience for people who can't often - or ever - afford an international experience.
Many people also say that they should also be used as training for leaders and delegates before they attend international programmes. That is a delicate point with which I strongly disagree. Anyway, even if this is not the purpose, they do work towards this aim as well.
Cheers,
Gui
(Lyon, France)
My only BUT is... what is stopping countries to do it?
we organise JB weekends that might last up to 4 days here, it would only mean making them longer, is there any rule saying you aren't allowed to organise local mini camps lasting more than 2-3 days? Don't think so..
I would say that there is nothing stopping countries from doing it. As I think it is only a matter of not calling it NYM or RYM, even though I'm pretty sure that there already are existing NYMs/RYMs, I don't see why we can't make them "official" and give them a name.
My BUT (hilarious!) is then, that if it already exists, then do we really need to structure them and make them possibly more bureaucratic?
You might think that I'm going against what I just wrote, but there is a difference.. As much as I like the idea, making it more official could mean that less camps are actually done because it feels like a bigger challenge to do a NYM/RYM than whatever-camp (billy perhaps?) where you do the same thing..
I really like the idea though, as long as it doesn't have the effect of making our "inofficial" camps not happen.
I think my suggestion would be to not formalize NYM, but bring on the RYMs!
I agree with Ida. If the NYM would be an official programme the bureaucracy would make it harder to organize these camps. But the RYM sounds like an idea to develop.
i don't understand the fear of calling things with their name officially. i don't think is a matter of burocracy, maybe a matter of fees...
but if all of the programs becomes official, fees overall will lower!!!!
there is also the good fact that we will have higher standards, having all the organization checking on us.
let's call things with their names!
I also very much agree this is an excellent proposal!
i am not particularly prone to buraucracy myself either, however, when i think about how much these programs (NYMs-- and possibly RYMs as they exist) are being run in isolation from one another they lose the ability to learn from one anothers experiences.
appreciating how programs are different is important, but so is looking at and appreciating their similarities.
i think calling these programs (as they already exist) by this new title, opens the possibility of developing resources for them and improving the quality of the work they are already doing.
not to mention reducing their fees, as teo mentioned, which is an incredible thing.
lovely laura, just lovely.
Thanks for your comments so far.
What is stopping countries doing it? Nothing. BUT what stopped the majority of countries making Mosaics before they were defined, and even JB-x? The fact is, I think that in this organasation we rely on tools, guides, documents, support and to a certain extent structure. Whether this is good or bad I'm not sure but the idea of this motion is to either recognise great things that are going on, or to encourage future projects and create support from an international body (Monitoring standards like Teo said, and allowing each project to learn from each other like Kelly said)
Ok about Flexibility vs. bureaucracy:
A bit of background: In 2005, the board passed a motion by IYM Taskforce to change the age bands and lengths of camps. In short, making there less age bands (4 instead of 6) and making 2 possible lengths of camps (8 or 15 days) instead of the previous 6-14 days. This helped us massively when making the pool for future camps (you can probably imagine trying to match requests to 6 age bands and 9 different lengths). Basically organisationally this has helped a great deal
However, like some of you mentioned: I’m not sure if this should be applied to the idea of RYM. To me the most important thing is for people to be more creative with Youth Meetings, once the goals are more clearly defined the possibilities are endless.
So, with this in mind, I would like to alter the first part: IYM and RYM would be defined by their goals (and not structure). IYM has a clearer structure (for organisational purposes) and RYM more flexible. (As RYM will be defined by goals, NYM could fit under this if it achieved what was outlined)
And... to add another angle, I very much agree with what was said in proposal 26 about defining programmes by goals, also what was said about JB-X revival. JB-X was an excellent initiative and I would love to see it come back in some shape or form.
One main idea behind RYM is strengthen JBs. I see a strong link between YM and JB, I hope this will always continue. Taking into consideration what I put above about keeping RYM flexible and defined by the goals and ‘A thematically based project, which allows participants to focus on the development of a chosen subject, bringing in personal experience and opinions’
Could one idea for a possible RYM between 2 countries adopt the 2 stage process of JB-X? eg a week in one country, and a week in another?
This goes along with the idea of more thematic development and keeps JB-X alive. Even though RYM would be defined generally by goals, suggested 'forms' for it could be provided by the YMTf- sort of mini guides for certain structures
(in order to support similar projects)
any thoughts?
I like the proposal and the opportunities that it brings with it. Having programmes in the 'official' loop and particularly in the hospitality points system will increase the likelyhood for them to happen.
I think we should look at what CISV as such is actually doing: providing learning opportunities for children, youth and sometimes adults. The more opportunities we can provide, the closer we will get to our aim. So in this way, IYMs and RYMs would be a great thing.
Talking from a European Perspective - there would be wonderfull funding opportunities for european RYMs, which would put us into a situation to expand our target group and involve youth, who otherwise wouldn't have the opportunity to travel to other countries and meet people from other places. I think this is particularly something that we should look into!
more i think of it and more i like it.
i really think that CISV International should promote all its ACTIVITIES at any level.
So Internationally, Regionally and Nationally not only IYM but also VILLAGES, SUMMERS etc etc etc...
Really...
IJRS: do a motion that all programs could include Regional and National activities. Marcos and Astrid... i know you are reading!!!!
Lets allow people to have a CISV experience even without getting on a plane!
this is a brilliant idea because we need them locally more than internationally as they fulfill their cisv purpose are compact and spread the spirit and specially locals need that, the ones who aren't able to travel,too.
go for it:)
but does this mean that we will have the iym committe take care of it?
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